Rian Satterwhite (Service Learning & Leadership; Student Affairs) was a guest on Phronesis: Practical Wisdom for Leaders, one of the official podcasts of the International Leadership Association. Rian joined fellow guest Kathy Allen, author of Leading From The Roots: Nature Inspired Leadership Lessons for Today's World, and host Scott Allen (John Carroll University) to discuss the topic of leadership for regenerative futures and how the field is moving in this direction.